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Reading All Night: One of Life's Great Pleasures
When the alarm went beep-beep-beep a few minutes ago, I was shocked. First of all, I thought I'd turned THAT alarm off, since it was set to go off at 5 am, my yoga and exercise time. Second of all, my GOD, it was already FIVE A.M.? I had felt a bit sleepy a while ago, but by then I only had another chapter and I'd be done with this book.

What book could possibly keep me up all night oblivious to the time? Some fantastic science fiction novel? Some wonderful spiritual book? Ha! A book about money for someone who basically doesn't have any problem with money!

How to Get What You Want in Life with the Money You Already Have: Simple Yet Revolutionary Ideas for Reaching Your Dreams While Still Paying Your Bills, by Carol Keeffe

Don't bother writing that down. I'm about to tell you everything she basically had to say, which amounts to about four really good points in 227 pages of repetitive prose. That said, I want to add as well that I plan to put several of her ideas into action because I think they are ideally suited to the way my beloved husband looks at the world and deals with money.

Here's her idea, in a nutshell: The whole point about money is to start by thinking what it is you WANT out of life, what are your dreams, your goals, your wishes? Where is the hidden you, that would come out if you had money? Where would you go, what would you do, what would you really buy?

That part, JF and I basically do. I would say that I managed our lean years with a tougher hand than either JF or my daughter would have liked, but since JF and I agreed that we wanted to keep ourselves as debt-free as possible, NEVER getting into credit card debt of any kind, and that we wanted to live on one salary and that we wanted to travel the world...you'd have to say that we basically had the fundamentals of what ol' Carol had to say pretty much down.

This was the thesis, lo these many years ago, of How to Live Rich When You're Not, the book that got me started on the right monetary track when I was still a single girl. Pick your luxuries, the author of that book urges, and then pinch those other pennies until they squeak. You discover what it is in life that represents true luxury to YOU, and then indulge entirely in that, finding the money for your champagne in rice and beans or second hand clothes or whatever else it doesn't FEEL BAD depriving yourself of.

Still, I've had long long talks with friends of mine who are just simply SNOWED UNDER with credit card debt, constantly struggling to get their bills paid off, never somehow managing to stay out of debt, never having any fun, never getting to Europe. And resenting me for the time and money I have to travel.

So here's Carol's plan for getting out of debt and staying out and having your own money to do with as you have planned:
1. Save your change. LABEL the jar with your specific savings goal.
2. Make minimum payments on your credit card and other installment debt.
3. Open different savings accounts for your different savings goals and put a little every month in there.
4. Every time you choose not to buy something, go home and immediately put that money into savings (jar, sock, write one of your savings accounts a check...)
5. Play games with yourself to stash more of your money into your savings accounts. There are about fifteen of these, but mainly the idea is to give yourself permission to save and then to spend the money on stuff that makes you happy, fulfilled, satisfied and joyful-- whatever that may end up being.
6. Pay yourself first. This is one I've heard before and it makes a lot of sense, though I tend to think "put it into savings first" not "give yourself fun money first." But all of this is directed at easing the downward spiral of feeling terrible about money, spending money to ease your bad feelings, then feeling bad that you've spent the money, then spending money to comfort yourself for having to deprive yourself...
7. Pay bills once a month at the same time you allocate money to savings goals and don't THINK about them the rest of the month. (Since all but one of my bills comes out of the paycheck automatically, this is relatively painless...)

By paying yourself first, and paying your credit cards and other installment bills the minimum, you end up with more money in the month to cover your basic expenses, so you don't run into the need to use the card to get through to the end of the month. The bills eventually get paid off, and as they do, you have even more money.

The whole rest of the 200+ pages was cheerleading, saying YOU, TOO, CAN DO THIS! YES, YOU!

Though it was phrased differently, this was the same basic advice in the last money book I read. Give yourself pleasure, joy, satisfaction with your money FIRST. Then stop using your credit cards as you pay them slowly and methodically off.

Why does this keep me up until 5 am? I don't know, but the last time I read, I think it was titled something like, Get Out of Debt and Stay Out for the Rest of Your Life!, I spent the whole day in my chair on the porch reading the book nonstop. The minimum payment thing is interesting, I admit, though we have totally escaped credit card debt entirely, so I'll never have to do that one.

We don't have the emergency funds (or, we do, but it isn't labeled as such) and six months or a year of salary socked away, or the tax-sheltered annuity that gives Carol enough money in interest every month that she doesn't HAVE to work. She's really financially free. And many people have that as a goal: Enough invested that they can live on the interest. I doubt if that would ever be a goal I could foist onto JF...every time the stock market goes down, he's more convinced than ever that he'll never see his retirement money that's been WRESTED from him against his will by his employer.

I do like the idea of the different savings accounts, and sitting down together once a month to "diversify" our savings into the different accounts. Carol thinks we should be in a credit union, not a bank, and that bears looking into. She thinks we need to immediately start stuffing an IRA. She's not convinced we need to pay off our mortgage or even own a home at all. (I still think we get more house for our money than if we were renting.)

Well, in an hour, I'll go out hiking in the woods with my friend Pam, and then maybe I'll come home and take a nap. This is not something to make a habit of, but it is quite the joy to have the luxury to do read a book all night long.
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karlkunkel From: [info]karlkunkel Date: July 20th, 2008 01:06 pm (UTC) (Permalink)

money

Trish
Thanks for sharing the key points of Ms. Keeffe's book. It will be a good reference.
I guess we all have our individual challenges in regard to this subject.
I know a couple of people that really endorse credit unions and have used them for more than 30 years.
I hope your hike was a good one. I may need to get out in the woods for an hour, too. I spent all day yesterday hiking --- back and forth from my house to my storage pod outside, in preparation for next week's floor refinishing gig.
I don't see how you can read all night and then function the next day. So, maybe you can give us some tips on that some time.
...Karl in High Point
suzan_s From: [info]suzan_s Date: July 20th, 2008 02:50 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
I've always been pretty good with money....even when I didn't have any, but these tips were good ones. If I don't put some money every month into a savings account then I get itchy...like having poison ivy that needs to be scratched....not a good feeling.
88greenthumb From: [info]88greenthumb Date: July 20th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC) (Permalink)

so right on & welcome back

Hey! Welcome back-belated! Hope things are getting back to normal for you. How are the fall Europe trip plans with your friends coming along?

So glad you posted this. I need reinforcement on what am doing re my money!

Funny but just now got done counting all the 25 cents (totaling $50 plus $1) among the change I've been saving in my plastic bag for TRIPS. I started this bag late last year after booking my ticket for this upcoming fall trip. I hardly ever spend any of my coins-I empty my coin purse every so often of all the coins and dump them into this plastic bag. Painless! I got this idea from my late mother, who used to save all her coins for the bulk of her plane ticket money for her trips overseas every 1 to 2 years! When I went to Europe last fall, my coin savings for a couple of years totaled $500, which paid for more than half of my plane fare! I have a trip coming up in the fall, so I thought it's time to start counting the coins! I'll deposit the $50 rolled coins in my Credit Union tomorrow! I have more than 2 more months to save my coins. We'll see what I come up with in the end.

Also last week I counted the tube of quarters that my son had left me when he moved out some years ago. He said then to deposit them for my trips. But I totally forgot about them until his daughter was born on July 9, when I thought of looking for the tube so I could count & deposit the coins for the newborn! Guess what, the quarters totaled a couple of dollars shy of $350!! K insists, I should use the money for my upcoming trip, so we'll see.
travelertrish From: [info]travelertrish Date: July 20th, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC) (Permalink)

Re: so right on & welcome back

You're another one who can squeeze a nickel and get two dimes! You and Suzan are my role models! I have never done the change thing. The idea is to LABEL the jar so you know what you're saving for. Sounds as if you have firmly in mind what the money is for.

I got an email earlier in the summer from Scott asking if we were still on for Europe. Told him I was; JF wants to go to Sweden instead. No prob...it can be just us chickens. But I haven't heard back from them. I really do need to get on the stick about this.

When JF gets back next week, I'm planning to sit down with him and do some financial planning. I love spending money on travel and think it is one of the best ways to go. On the other hand, we've also decided that Raf needs to get an MFA from North Carolina State, so we are going to have to consider our options very carefully. Still, if he goes to Europe in the spring, I don't want to sit at home twiddling my thumbs all year being jealous. His parents pay for his ticket...but not mine. My political position is that a trip is a trip, and if yours gets funded, then that only means that mine is half what it would be.

Europe is EXPENSIVE these days! That's another consideration. With the Euro at 1.6 to the Dollar-- or MORE in the airport-- a 3 Euro cup of espresso coffee is now $5+!

I'd say that Scott and Kris and I need to have a nice weekend chat SOON.
88greenthumb From: [info]88greenthumb Date: July 23rd, 2008 09:28 am (UTC) (Permalink)

Europe is expensive

You're so right about Europe being expepnsive.
I wouldn't be able to afford making the Europe trip this fall, with the rise in plane fares and with the Euro at 1.6 to the dollar, as you said. However, am so glad I grabbed that frequent flier miles ticket early this year, so the plane ticket is covered. And am also glad am walking the Camino in Spain, in which I expect to spend a comparatively cheap amount of daily expenses Euro20-30 per day (about Euro600-900 for 30 days) for meals and lodging. So we'll see if I can meet you guys in France.
jas_windle From: [info]jas_windle Date: July 24th, 2008 11:28 am (UTC) (Permalink)

Re: Europe is expensive

Good luck with your pilgrimage. I am learning Spanish with the aim of going from St Jean to Santiago next Spring. I heard that 80% of the walkers only speak Spanish so it seemed like a good idea to be able to talk to them.
88greenthumb From: [info]88greenthumb Date: July 25th, 2008 12:08 pm (UTC) (Permalink)

Re: Europe is expensive

Thanks, James & good luck with yours too on the Camino Frances.My friend whom I'm walking with on the Camino Norte in the fall, did the Frances (St Jean to Santiago) last year and it sounded like she met & walked with people speaking various languages, aside from Spanish. But yeah, it's still a good idea to learn Spanish. Am brushing up on mine too.
My friend enjoyed her walk last year. She did it in the fall when there were less people to compete with in the albergues, etc. It seems like there will be less people too at the time you're planning to go.

(BTW, I added you on my LJ friends' list.)
jas_windle From: [info]jas_windle Date: July 24th, 2008 11:25 am (UTC) (Permalink)

Make minimum payments on your credit card and other installment debt.

I like the other suggestions but I am not impressed by this one. I HATE paying interest to lenders!!! I would choose to pay the debt off as soon as possible and then pay off my credit card bills in full at the end of each month.

Looking at it aniother way - Why have money in a savings account, earning, say 3%, (or in a jar earning nothing) and a debt costing 6%. (Of course if you can borrow at 3% and earn 6% interest on what you borrowed then that is a different matter altogether.)

travelertrish From: [info]travelertrish Date: July 24th, 2008 11:45 am (UTC) (Permalink)

Re: Make minimum payments on your credit card and other installment debt.

Yours is the more standard argument, James. What she's aiming for here is getting people to begin to put money into savings. If every month, you strap yourself, you force yourself to try to live on less than you really can afford, just to make that big payment, then you end up defeating yourself at the other end of the month.

I loathe paying interest to lenders, too. So I don't get myself into credit card debt EVER. I pay off every card, every month. I can afford to because I live within my means and always have. She's addressing the problem of getting people BACK into living within their means. Hers is a gradual system, but eventually involves not using credit cards at all (or using them the way I do, which is to borrow the money for a few days and then give it all back) and also involves saving up for things and paying cash.
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VISTA volunteer at Faith Action International House in Greensboro, NC. Resident technology consultant.

JF: Team teaching the Movie-Making Class at FaithAction with me and others. Teaching French (14th year) at High Point University.

Raf: Taking courses at UNCG and Guilford College. Hope this will help getting him into a master's program next year.

Natasha: At the Contemporary Curatorial Studies MA program at Bard College. Loving it!
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