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At the Y this morning, I was listening to Speaking of Faith, the radio program about ethics, religion, meaning and ideas. Or something like that. I am in the middle of one of the programs right now, so I can't go to the beginning of the show to grab the tagline.

I had a couple of those moments of tearful epiphany this morning. The first piece I listened to is this particle physicist from England, whose pedigree and qualifications are so impressive that when he starts talking about religion, you have to listen because he's so incredibly recognized for what he says. He's also some kind of high mucky-much in the Anglican Church as well as being a physicist. His whole concept of God is gorgeous and I won't try to sum up his arguments. You can find it on "Quarks and Creation."

What he said that really grabbed me was this:
All the really interesting and new things come out of the interface between order and chaos. If you're too far into order, it's lockstep, it's mechanical, every day is the same. If you're too far into chaos, then everything falls apart and nothing lasts and things are all about smoke and clouds and nothing else.

This just gobsmacked me. This is precisely how I feel about working and my job as a technology consultant. It CAN'T be mechanical, getting up every day, being part of the rat race, the cog in the wheel, etc. I love the chaos of it, but I also love the rational, logical beauty of it. My very best self, my very best moments are exactly there, at the interface between order and chaos.

The second piece I started was less interesting over all, an interview with a Unitarian chaplain to the police and forestry people who have to be there when people have disappeared into woods or fallen into rivers, etc. So she deals regularly with death and its consequences. She says that the Buddhists argue that we are constantly and always preparing for our death, and I got that one immediately. I've always been preparing for my debilitated old age, storing up memories, making sure that my LIFE was interesting and fulfilling and fun, making sure I never got STUCK in misery or resentment or law suits or ongoing conflict (those things will truly screw up an old age...)

And I thought about Scott and how he's helping me prepare for my own death very consciously.

Then the woman who's being interviewed says this:

"If you posit a world in which the ultimate value is life, then you're utterly lost. Because we're all gonna die. And then you get have to posit this whole life after death thing, which nobody has experienced and lived to tell about it ("I died and came back" stories notwithstanding.)

"If you posit a world in which the ultimate value is LOVE, then there's something to DO."

And I went, YEAH. There is something to do, and all we need to do is allow ourselves to grow into the person who acts love out. It doesn't matter, in the end, who we grow into because as long as we're on the trajectory of love, we will not only have something to do, we'll know what it is.
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asakiyume From: [info]asakiyume Date: July 24th, 2008 01:01 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
:-)

Here's a poem about God and quarks that you might like--maybe I'll put it up on my own LJ, too.

Consider Now The Quark
by Willard Espy

Consider now the Quark, which is
A Concept sub-atomical
No man alive has seen its phiz;
Perhaps it isn’t Is at all.

A Concept sub-atomical
Too tenuous I find to prove.
Perhaps it isn’t Is at all.
This goes for Hate, and also Love.

Too tenuous I find to prove
The Sun, the Shadow, and the Wind.
This goes for Hate, and also Love,
And other matters of the kind.

The Sun, the Shadow, and the Wind—
The Dream, the Doing, the Despair,
And other matters of the kind
I find are proven best in prayer.

The Dream, the Doing, the Despair,
And other matters, being His,
I find are proven best in prayer,
Consider now the Quark, which Is.



suzan_s From: [info]suzan_s Date: July 24th, 2008 01:02 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
What a beautiful post Trish. I think creativity is the thing that most resembles that interface between chaos & order. We have all these swirling chaotic thoughts and feelings until we produce something that puts them into order. That is the very essence of my belief in God & creation.....the great intellect channeling energy (chaos) into order. I think that's why people who go about their day, every day, like a machine are very unhappy....generally speaking of course. Most people think "creation" just comes from artist but, to me, it's just the process of the interface.
suzan_s From: [info]suzan_s Date: July 24th, 2008 01:08 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
I forgot to mention the "posit a world where the ultimate value is LOVE" subject. Of course you know this, but when I first got into the 12 Step Program my Higher Power, as I understood it, was Love.....and still is....the very idea changes you down to the core (creation) of your being.

Thanks for sharing this this morning
deponti From: [info]deponti Date: July 24th, 2008 03:34 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
Two GREAT concepts to ruminate and digest....thank you Trish, for making me think fresh thoughts.

They instantly resonated inside me...will muse over them now.
judo100 From: [info]judo100 Date: July 24th, 2008 05:22 pm (UTC) (Permalink)

Ultimate Value of Love

There is a world view that, as the Beatles told us, "Love is all there is." At all levels, whether on a universal scale, a personal scale, and a micro scale, all flows, all meshes together, and all totally loves all else. There IS nothing else.

That world view also posits that everything we see as negative - fear, hate, pain, sorrow, disease, fear of death, and of course Brussel Sprouts - comes from a lack of love and a lack of understanding that love is all that is needed.

Thus love is not just the ultimiate value, it is the ONLY value. And all we DO, during our entire lives, is either love or fear what we encounter. There's nothing else to do.
markmc03 From: [info]markmc03 Date: July 25th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC) (Permalink)
As it happens, I'm just now reading an English translation of the Tibetan Book of the Dead. It exhorts people to use meditation and the moment of falling asleep to practise awareness during the act of dying. The book claims to have been written by monks who have made the journey to death and back. Taken with a grain of salt, I suppose, but it does make an interesting read. And who know?

But, bottom line, you are right that making Love the foundation of your life is one of the keys to a fulfilling life experience.
gnostraeh From: [info]gnostraeh Date: July 25th, 2008 02:19 pm (UTC) (Permalink)
I love hearing about your "tearful epiphanies" Trish, and it seems that sometimes through you I have an ear to the world in a way that I oft times neglect in recent years. Thanks for being interested in all this stuff and sharing it here.
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